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thought
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September
_!~-2, Army
1947, was
5,which furnished
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Colonel
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to certain
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X Air Defense Command, Mitchel Field, New York, concerning "Cooperation of FBI
A .3: with AAF on Investigations of Flying Disc Incidents".
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disc incidents.
the Air Force Intelligence
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personnel in the investigation
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of flying
the attached letter that it
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apparently not those which
are observed only in flight. Further, the atten-
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down_all the § §"instances which turned out to be ash can_covers, toilet
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In first place, the instructions issued by the Army
Air Forces
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If in this letter appear to limit the type of investigations which the Bureau
. -will be asked
to handle and secondly it appears to me the wording of the last
sentence in the second paragraph mentioned above is cloaked in entirely
uncalled for
language tending
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in thosecasesare
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this matter further with the Army Air Forces both as to the types of investi-
gation: we-sill
which conduct and also to object to the scurrilous wordagc
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a number
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of Section
D of the Boeing Aircraft Plant with
a bout ten
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2 out 2C0
fv t high, going south over Boeing Field run ay. &#39;
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interview, that the object appeared triangular in shape and floated in the air
e 1is o loaf, and he estimated the speed t~ be about fifteen miles per
ii-
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and he did recall a large piece of
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paper was approximatelythree feet
this was the object in question,
inlength. =5-tated that
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stated HI
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was
then
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retard
about h p.m. on august
12
2. 3,;,
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which he estimated to be about 35,000 feet in the air,
areQ? which was flying over his homein a southwest direction. A neighbor, _
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of the sighting
not it was e bone fide sighting,
a flying disc in order to ascertain whether
an imaginary one, or a prank. The results of
or
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conducted Field
the Bureau Offices in this matter have failed the
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reported sightings.

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5 it The Bureau has received s communication in the captioned matter from
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the Special Agent dated
Charge at Son Francisco, September 19, 1947, which
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to SAC at
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Sn Francisco lieutenant Colonel Denali In Springer, A-2, Army Air Forces,
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Field
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Between
10:30 and 10:45 p. . on August 6, 1947, she was sitting on
the
stepsofherhome
with* She
was
facing
north and
observed
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white
object
traveling
atavery
There was a buzzing
fast
rate
ofspeed
tothe.
south.
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sound, not too loud but
plainly audible, just after thi
object passed through the air. This white object left in its trail a~thin
.
streak of smoke, which was grayish in color.
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home on
theevenin
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6,1947
round 10:45 p.rn. in conversation
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butshedidhear
a
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his 1&1,
P nilade1phia,
whowas a former pilot of B-24&#39;s
in the Army Air Corps, advised as follows:
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6, 1947, with his wife; and his neighbors,
the
their steps next door t the residence of
on the steps of his home around
amily,
10:45
were sitting on
All of the above parties
p.m. on August

G. were
facing
east.
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messed thistimeanobject,
emitting
abluish-
.=
white flame, passing
northeast to southwest.
_estImated
quickly through the air. The object
Using his experience in the Army Air Corps as a guid
the above object was between
1000
was traveling

and 3000 feet in the air

from
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=-not lose elevation as it passed through the air and left either smoke or a
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in its former path, which lasted for about two seconds.
vt :2-1, ,1sound
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_ the passing3;: this object.Swiiti
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oftheir resemblinghim
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giant firecracker, pass quickly through the air. heard no noise, but
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1947,
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delphia were recuested by the Philadelphia Office ascertain
to if either the
or
Army the Navywas doingany experimentalwork onnewtypes
of planes or
equipment, the
in vicinity of Philadelphia. buch was done with negative re-
sults. The Office of Naval Intelligence indicated that an explosion had oc-
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LENNIG COMPANY is about two and one-half miles southeast from Oxford Circle.
The account of the fire does not seem to fit into the general pattern of the
above-mentioned flying object, for itis noted that the flying object was
allegedly traveling
from
aposition
westerly direction
northeast
Philadelphia.
in
Oxford
ofthat,Circle
*ointed out
to asouth-
is
tothe best
ii , of his knowledge, there are no oil refineries and chemical companies located
around Oxford Circle or north of such, but that all of the companies of this
type are several miles south of Oxford Circle.

El. will be
All logical
on
taken
investigation having
the instant matter unless
been conducted,
advised to
no further
the contrary
action
by the
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that two
army officers
reportedthe
to X/&#
Office of the Director of Intelligence, headquarters Alaskan Department,
at Fort Richardson, Alaska, that they had witnessed an object passing
through the air at atremendous rate of speed which could not be judged
as to miles per hour.
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his attention was attracted
to
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tr-I
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E? officer stated that itwould be impossible to give minute details con-

feet diameter
in
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the
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of the object, and from aweather group stationed nearby it was de-
.&#39;_1l termined that cloud formations at the time the object was sighted were
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traveling
below the cloud formation. 7

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of Ga.
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The officer stated substantially the same facts
and fa
also pointed out that the object remained within his vision for ap- - es
proximately l5 to 20 seconds. When sighted, the object was traveling

it due south at aspeed

officer stated that the object appeared
considerably in
to him to
be approximately 10 §
excess of any plane. The second

s feet in
diametercompared
and to half
it the 5133
of a-full
moon
an fly &#3
on
ordinary night. The secondofficer based the altitude at approximatelyya,
the same as the first officer except for the fact that due to the size
,1 - _ he believed the object to be, he estimated the altitude to be only
?. approximately 3,000 or 4,000 feet. The object appeared broadside to
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reflection
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In conclusion, the secmd officer pointed out that one of
3*" the remarkable features of this object was that itwas definitely
-I . traveling against the wind. &#39; _ --
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The exact date of the sighting of this object was not fur-
nished this office, and inasmuch as it occurred previously to the re-
ceipt of Bureau instructions in this matter, nofurther investigation
is being conducted by thisoffice unless specifically requested to do
so by the Bureau.
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matter.

., ,llcllenry County, 1 .-&#39;oodstocL<,

Illinois, advised that he had
1"¬C81V8l_.
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reportsflying;
stated
that
nooi discs in the
he had no.1 -ecord or
community
knowledge of
°lr lake
of Illinois.éyd,
of 1-»
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Lilv Lake, E-llinois, advised that was

he per-
soral L1 ac.ua"nted with M whomhe described asasuocessml67C,
writer of mystery stories. He said he had no information to the ¬f1"r*<;t tn-at
5 sFL¢..VE.&#39;.
mentally
l was unsound and he believed him to be asubstantial citizen.
.i. dvised she had sold property to H_
.£1I ,.
QHE.
on
of no
sions vras
amell
acquainted
with-and his
derogatory information
wife. concerning him.
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him
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some correlation between the flying and the hurray Island explosion, and
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that RAYKOUD BALKER,Chicago magazine editor, had employed APNQLDto investi-
~ gate and "cover" the Hurray Island explosion.
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F there was a conference among officials of the Army and Navy, who discussed
the possible relation between the Hurray Island erplosion and the appearance
<
of flying discs. ARNOLDwas supposed to have been in attendance at this
Q. conference. At the conference, authorities brought samples of a lava oxide
f metal, allegedly taken from the scene of the Murray Island explosion.
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for Hamilton rield, California, carrying samples of the lava oxide metal.
lhe article further reported that the plane crashed near Ehmilton Field,
Californis- and it was coniectured that the plane had exoloied bv reason of
r.
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of the lavauoxidemetalit carried. U
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article, it shouldbe notedthati
the start
S employer,
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from "exploitin-2&#39;"
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appearance
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.. I- Idaho a
Times News" on August 15, together with sheet of paper on whicha. C.
least
-; to the back
attempted to end of the
sketch device. The offlame
his impressions the did to which he
not appear
instrument taper
claims to
to widen out toward the &#39;
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BILL! and EElIB_I§UR_I,E

Concerning URIE&#39;8 stated that
sketches, they
it may be noted a he
could that
see knot on thethe
believed
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the f rcmwhich thé £ lan-as
were shooting, and that they could
rolled outer edge which he attempted to create in his drawing to have see
been about
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light
foot through,theURIE
exhaust flamebelieved
likewise and the that
side of
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or exhaust flame which
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have seen was about at
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down the canyon, heading from east to west and following the contours of the
ground, BILLY, age ten, saw it almost immediately. Both watched it fly out
of sight behind atree in amatter of moments, They said they then ran to
their Father and learned that he too had seen the machine,

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in house
the at the
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and fishing at Sal-
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have
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were consequently,
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Just as and
Magic Valley the
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told him if desired to pay his expenses to go to Tacorn",
Washington, and look into this matter, that they did not see where he had enj,-thing
to lose. He informed that he Fave a talk st the Boise Rd Club on July
25, 194 .-
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seen, contained in
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of the information available
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to the story
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regarding
disc
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about fragments end that he understood
disc fragments, stating there was nottinr
was so unusual and fantastic immediately replied that his story
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th Harbor Patrols would be left out:

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the wheel mount on his harbor patrol boat had been struck by disc fragments,
5. and that about
twenty ton of this material hed fallen on the beech at hsuri
$- Island,
veers of ewe had contacted him and told him.&#39;"I
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know whet you sew at Thuri &#39;
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l the specimens

re was on patrol with his boy, dog, and two seamen near a cove on the esst side
- cf Veuri Island. up
He stated that he looked through the windshield of the host

.
at
are s height of about 1,000 feet, he sew six round circular
I 92 grey
l. objects
&#39; tt"t looked like large inner tubes slightly squashed. ihese 0bj CtS enpeareo
4!»
&#39; be
to across
about lCO feet and in the center was e hole about twenty five feet.
-se.id he essumerl they were some type of e balloon. The object in the center
. u.S lower than the rest of the other objects, and the other objects were circlinf
around it. ihe object in the center seemed to be descending while the others

~g~.
.
Y Followed. As the objects port
descended he sew holes around the inside of the
i
&#39;~.&#39; object and whet appeared to be windows. He stated that the object in the ce>ter
G .-»92_
to
¢escended about 500 feet, end that suddenly one of the circlini objects came
1
down and touched the object in the center and remained in this position for v
f f*W minutes, while the other objects continued to circle above, T he Object
J, - _u ich had descended and touched the object in the center and which was lower,
- then rose and took its place with the other objects.
-
&#39; All of the objects then started to rise and what aypeerei to be news-
. ~-oers came out of the center of the object in the middle of the circlinr 7 ob ect.
" sky
ihen the seemed to rein lava, the lave coming from the object in the center
ii 3. :?-heeded the boat for shore. He stated that the lave conine from the
.v~ =&#39;
2.7
object in the center appeared to be s white metel, &#39;1:
K2es 11-.fell sec, the v-"fer,
. .
git-T: clouds of stern rose from the water. He stctcd that some of the love lcndcd on
Q,
vi*1-&#39;u:,_ the-beach. He rlso stated that his doy was killed n
oz? also sec gull in Pd ltioh
E. -,7 tr:
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hisboy beiry"hurt bf;thefallinc: lava. r. Cor-tinnaed stating
_
thst
had said lihet lie had token pictures of the objec and that. if 7.&#39;r.
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Dinector, FBI August 2&#39;7,

1947
~ -
Reziiilying
Discs
Tacoma,
Wu. __
H tented he received a telephonecall from the press upon
about
returning to his hotel room, and that the press wanted to know the flying
disc
fragments,
and
hetoldthem
thathewas
nottalking:
untilhehad 4
proved
it. Hestated
hedidnotknow
how
thepress
everknew
hewas
in Tacoma
orhad
59°" i . .

informed that at 9:30 5-.!v?.the next morning, July $1, 1947,

appeered hotel
at his room
and again asked
himto sohome
and forget about the discs, that his story was not false, but that he had had
enoughtrouble. _said that his boy had been missed one morning-;
and had been
found at Lust, Montana, waiting on tables in a cafe; that he did not know how
he had got there and that too manythings were happening. stated
that when _came
fregzsents, and that ihad
to hotel
his room,they had an of
arnfulobjec
then informed about howhe had seen an
67¢
resemblingthose seenby steted &#39;
he had taken the patrol boat
on July 23, 1947, and had gone to Msuri Island and had found the beach littered
with lava. ststed he had looked up and had seen s balloon-like object
port
with holesandwindows,
which intoa largecloud.Q
haddisappeared
stated um; he askediag-sin of
to see the pictures the objects; that:
hadagain agreedto showthemto him. _info1-med that he hadthen
asked-1 be
it would all right for him to call a friend,
who had also seen someflying discs and let him ape the fragments
andhear__ stoq. Qdissented, _
however, readily agreed.
He also stated that placed
he had a call to Lieutenant BRO!-&#39;1
erd Captain
DA .&#39;I1
Army
S092!,
intelligence officers at Hamilton Field, and had asked them to
come to his hotel, as they had previously instructed &#39;
him to report to them -any-
of
thing; of
an unusual nature or interest regarding: the flying discs.

_ He stated he flew to Seattle and got lnd that -Lieutenant,

andCapts._in"192A"IDi&#39;IO?i
hadcometo his room
about4:00 PJJ. ~
advised that he had asked Li"e&#39;i&#39;§ter=ant
BRO&#39;i
just what
| he had found out regarding
the discs, and Lieutenant BRO.- had
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confidentially informed him that they had
obtained a picture of s disc, which appeared to he authentic, which picture
was taken by e man in Phoenix, Arizona. The picture, according to Lieutenant _,_
wa§ oi s circular object with a hole in the center, and
.-{_;!!BOz.&#39;N, of another object
--that looked like a flying wing. He stated that whenLieutenant BEG- told
N him
of
this that he i unediately thought the object seen by-EAHL. He stated -that
after hearing story, Lieutenant BPOWW
s-d Captain 11WJD$ON&#39;s
attitude
had
changed thatthey
immediately,
and appeared
disinterested.
sup-rested that they all &#39;0
_Itwas
then
to Maur-i Island and look for the disc fragments.
r.nd._Ccpte.inD VIDS6N,state&#39;.&#39;-
that they had to return to Hamilton
E- ield&#39;im-ssdieteiy.
gets-.ted that Lieutenant
.-.B!T£>9!!é
andGaptein
!!i&#39;I.&#
of
wsie very careful to gather up all the fragments which had been broughtto
by
the room . .e

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t i71
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¢¥ Ru; Flyingebiscs
-Tacoma,
-vn. .
. ,5.-_|,-. RHe
whetold him
stated thatthe nextmorning he
that Lieuteapt
received a
call frdrn_
l llwiihd captain DAVIDSQI hadbeen killed in s
B-25 crash. He stated he does not lmow how P.-new who had been iu=
the olsne
before anyone else. He also stated that during the above conference
=
&#39; numeroustelephone calls. were received from the press, wanting to 1-snow about
the conference. He stated that someone kept. tipping the press
off as to what
_,__ was going on and what was being said daily verbatim. He informed tint
_United Press men at Tacoma, appeared to know all that took
place during the conference, and even knew of the crash of the B-25 and those
92l aboard, before the Army released this inf&#39;ormatior.. informed that
n when he received news of the crash, that he and _ ully expected
to be contacted
by Army Intelligence, as they were the last people with
[Lieutenant BR6W[! e dContain DAVIDSMJ, however, they were revel contacted.

He further stated that he and went down to the United

Press to see what the survivors of the crash had informed about the crash and
.. . his - I -.
l .h9.1; E~C1 told them that the mysterious informant who had been calling
had told him that
the B-25 had not crashed, but had been shot dovm, also that .
-<
_ informant
A:-nw had said that an observer at
Kelso, Washington, had
h
.i._
seenplane
the out
from the
throw
landing
a after
flaretwo
the survivors
plane, and
had jumpe
that the plane had gone into a steep dive and dove into s~*
1
,_ hillside, and further that
one engine had been on fire, but that
the fire
:-
apparatus, protectinr the engine, had failed to function. _ststed
vi thet then came to
see him ard r.d told them to -to home
and
L forget about the discs, that such things as the B-25 crash had been happening
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tsted that he thencalled at Chicago and

told
him that the deal was off and that
if he wanted his $200.00 back, he could b .
__
have it; that two men had been killed and he was getting frightened of the *
whole thin-I. ile stated that inf or-med him that it was all rirht with him
_to keep
the
&#39; trouble
$300.00,
he had
however, would
he him
sendadditional
an tothis telephone
put to.&#39;_dvised thatrevio-as
for
check
theIAcal
e called his rmma,
dof the Chicago
Times had
and
told him that he did not have faith in Army hatelligence and for lie
.- - conduct an_investigation on _and get to the bottom of this disc fantasy.
~s Galso advised that
previous to the two above
telephone calls,he had
asked the oress toinvestigate as Army Intelligence had informedshimthe
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Mi, r~lyir.g Liscs - leconw, "T1-
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1947, however, when~ -"&#39;35 9PP1"° ¢h@d i1" this 1"9P&#39;-B1"&#39;l;
H > Iv "&#39;5&#39;-
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t; the boat house
wher@ T&#39;eot his boat, could not se°.&#39;r! to
make the beet run, and after making some excuses that he had to r_et1rn_to his
office he-d
I
his mechanic
stated
shonlé hsvo
that
he .*:ou1c&#39;.
the hoot
return
ren2ire4 srd
r-bout
inthey couli
hour,
anell proceed
by
sodthat
time
to ;tri 1-
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Islam], Tn-. 1* 1&#39;O! m8_" that~1evcr 1-eturreo, =2o
n "&b1E to
locateput
any of thetel<=."~hor~e numbers
he had_r"ive&#39;- thew
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sfter They
rr;skimr_
some locateri
efforts
to Fnmovie,
locate * had! -CCO1 i21f~91""1
rYl!&#39;*,9
or-med ti"- la
that them to /

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.5 sec left tour for afew 13.11;/s. T-Fefurther fmformec that about this titre the
Z :,r1ss con -.P*cterl them end told them an inf&#39;orm&#39;2r>t
had celled told th~.+:r-.
that D"-2 or his&#39;w!1_,&#39;
- -.1&#39; ~les
tor.s I11»on
-t .rm_v plgr»
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him th-2+.
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he her}
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T&#39;a__iOI £.t Y c .or"with
Field etc] lI&#39;1&#39;liF"
-o tell C] 3"I
ifs vor _tie complete story. Purim the afternoor, Caotv n _cr:<i [Ar
U sjor ame to the hotel room, eccorciiw-;-3 to_ e1 d some <.:"the
7% f rs:_&#39;=neots
hen!
that
brou;:ht to ._>
*.&#39;r. root, £0110 -&#39;~&#39;lY":
the cohference,
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"ere shovmto F-"e,_"&#39;|or_"non viewirw the fregnrnehts,ejor sow 92-
i&#39;-r»- to_T r. sts-tee that they were rothirpr but slag f&#39;r-omcooper
the mill,
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"ejor 1ef
1.;ef
t, or¬- he :-¢-a+i».»=red
up evervf&#39;rr.-mer-t.
he roeir" ,
1-.&#39; -&#39;-"cor.-Ii";r.toe:@i too ! them with him. Ur. _sts+e&#39;3 +3»-":he
ti -en 1"-Ft for Boise, Idenc.

Jlf =.:;-. produced a letter dete_-<1 f-uj-rust

5, 194*, fromQ
, in which sttempts to e1=cours{re Fir. lo cortimze his ir!v=5.=s1 i;-¢=i,&#39; .".
.5 tto the flyiu- discs. Tris letter is also being erclosed to the Bur eu.
Q.
r.-also gave IM -copy of the article sent to r. _Er-._
to the Commanding: Kiener-2,1,-&#39;ri=:ht field, *-eytoo, Ohio,
&#39;.3i= -},T.iI&#3 re;-sr=linr his
of the
nine discs
near P."our=t
Fainier-Tuhe
on 1947.
24, This
e:"l;io1ealso is
blr F _ 1eir&#39;
enclose": to the Bureau. P-dvised that he is vita.ll_&#39;é-4
iriterectecl
7 f
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g.
in this mu-tt.er and 1-rows that there must be somethinr to the flying tliscsstory
-.e S&#39;het=:"i
that he will do everything in his power to helo the Bureau in this
. ll ; ~vtter

0
To stated he
that has tolo the above story to ry
1 . [ntelli ence er J .3o_"§or am! to no owe else, with the exception <.-"

l._
&#39; Poise, Idaho, &#39;.<i92rised
that the
_as never
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P id.1or. . r
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any ststeo
news
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h"S Flvef
t-ll!_..! _}
the"-M=-"A
has never epproecneu him in thls msm.er.
Icy"
.&#39; is pot 9_ttemptj,.5- topush
the flying" discs story, but merely ettempt1r"&#39;
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27, 1947
Y;
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Discs
Tacoma,
Wr. . &#39;
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get to the bottom
of the fiying discs story as they since:-eiy beiieve there is
of
someone who knows the story the discs and that they actually exist, and
that the Army, when approached for information, merely state that they know
nothingconcerning;
eptain DAVIDSON
them. also informed that Lieutenant BFOWX and
had contacted him on July 20, 1947, at Boise, *deho, regard-
ing the discs and that is how he met them.

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?. Unless advised th the contrary, no additional investigation is
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I have just read an account in the Chicago Tribune concerning
an aerial train 9
composed of at least units shaped like a
pie-plate and silvery in color, traveling at 1200 m.p.h. near
. Mount Ranier, as witnessed by you while flying in the vicinity.

x
= ie numerous independent confirmations
I
This is quite important to me, because have in my possession
of what you saw, although none
-5" in as great detail
an article
account.
as your
in our magazine, written
I em interested in publishing
from a personal account by
yourself, and accompanied by pix of yourself, plane, and rough
sketches by yourself, of what you saw.
92.
If you care to do this for me, I am prepared to pay our usual
rates of 2d perword, plus $5.00 for each photograph you can
provide, or for each sketch which can be used by our art staff
to illustrate the article.

Included in this material, a

we&#39;d
like short biographical
sketch of yourself as Ieuthor background" material. The
¥&#39;
article would appear under your by-line.
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If you are not interested, would at least appreciate a
letter you,
from confirming the newspaper story.

Very truly yours,

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It seems
moor;
that &#39;
fsulll mt: 1 D606-How
theChic-ego
Times
an C751..|.m.4 mo,
E-,o+
the tulu mu [:6 was
running it. I knew only what-you&#39;d
told me over the phone.
1" Now, it seems the newspapers are pestering the very devil out
.
of all you fellows. wired me for instructions, and I V
told him to say nothing th the newspapers, because he&#39;ll
look
silly if the
army explains this as "meteors" or something like
V that.
4.
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92 .3. I don&#39;t
blame you for being alarmed, but I trust you&#39;ve
had
no
J
Q trouble in your flying since then. Let&#39;s
get that straight--
L. there&#39;s
no horrible plot infolved. It&#39;s
probably true that the
two mun killed were just accidents. It could be true that it
nus not
an accident, but
I don&#39;t
thin]; there was any connection
with the disks, or anything of that nature, nor is the material
from Murray Island to blame.

Certainly I don&#39;t
think you&#39;d
suffer from completing your report
on your mission, and sending me your affidavit. Also, you&#39;ll
#92 have some money coming for that, and no sense to tossing that out
.<-&#39;
.~-_2&#39;
of the window. It is unfortunate that the thing seemed so big
you had to call in army intelligence, but itvill take them a
long time "Lo proceed to the point I&#39;vereached inthis disk mystery.
0 You see, you aren&#39;t
the first to
see them. They&#39;ve
been known
1 for nearly forty years, and I have ample proof of that. But
your experience was the first real break toward
e solution. I&#39;d
Eg 1
1
hate to have you drop the mat --er when all remaining to do is to
file your report with me.

r I117 _is willing

to contribute his share.
I hope you will too.
This tling uust not be hushed up and forgotten. It&#39;smuch too
important to the
people of America, if not the world. And no
,7. censorship oi the matter is legal. You needn&#39;t
fear ihet angle.
=.=
- Q I. You certainly did a bang-up job of investigation,
also you wrote
- J
u one of the best articles about your June 2!; experience I&#39;ve
ever
l
5* A.&#39;¬ Y seen. Please do the
same on this lest business. You Gwe it to
§_".&#39; those two men the were killed.

*2. z I&#39;d
also like to know whet developed on those pictures you took
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like hevo you continue to beep in oontact
ith mB| Hod relay to no anything furthwr you learn.
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Yd I turn,
I&#39;ll give you the whole story, which I&#39;m
Just about
ready to break not in the newspafers!. And if it nus as
-12?
_ . . -l-u-|»-- dangerous as_ynu seem to suspect, I&#39;m
afraid I&#39;d
have been
A corpse long ago} i

But, and this is all you ueed remember, rhose disks re got
¢-4.. {Gd 0QI PQ.S-2155
1!; _;,- Q11!
Q}&#39;91.L!l1i
and thay 9,}-3331&#39;
g@;;j5_;th1y}g
we can forget about with an ostrich in the send attitude.
we&#39;ve
got to solve them, public hysteria or no. As for that
~
hysteria. if laughing is hysteria, that&#39;s
all the hysteria
I&#39;venoticed}
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§ou knowyour business, andyou handledit like a major.
But I&#39;m do
hoping you the easy part now and get that report
L , in
on paper.

A eheok for your June 2h article is going out to you-

Sinoerely yours,

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